[00:00:01] SYSTEM. THIS IS ONLY THE SECOND TIME TO USE IT. SO. SO I NOW CALL TO ORDER. WELL LET ME DO [Call to Order] THIS. MAKE IT OFFICIAL. I NOW CALL TO ORDER THE LAWRENCEVILLE CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION MEETING ON WEDNESDAY, AUGUST THE 12TH AT 5 P.M. PLEASE REMEMBER TO TURN OFF OR SILENCE YOUR CELL PHONES SO AS NOT TO INTERRUPT THE VARIOUS SPEAKERS, AND WE VERY MUCH APPRECIATE IT. NEXT, WE'LL MOVE TO THE PRAYER. SO PRAYER. PRAY WITH ME AS YOU WILL. DEAR LORD, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SCRIPTURE FROM JEREMIAH 2911 WHERE YOU LET US KNOW YOU HAVE PLANS FOR US. PLURAL. WITH EACH ONE OF US BEING PART OF OUR COMMUNITY, THE LAWRENCEVILLE COMMUNITY. HELP US TO LISTEN TO YOUR WORD AND RESPOND TO IT THROUGH THE HOLY SPIRIT. TO MAKE THIS LAWRENCEVILLE COMMUNITY ONE OF LOVE OF ONE ANOTHER. IT IS IN YOUR NAME I PRAY. AMEN. AMEN. IF YOU PLEASE, STAND AND JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. NEXT, WE'LL MOVE TO AGENDA ADDITIONS AND [Agenda Additions / Deletions] DELETIONS. SO DOES THE STAFF OR COUNCIL HAVE ANY RECOMMENDED ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS TO THE WORK SESSION? YES. MAYOR AND COUNCIL STAFF WAS RECOMMENDING TWO ITEMS TO BE TABLED TO OUR SEPTEMBER MEETING. ITEM NUMBER THREE ANNEXATION 20260002ZM20260006 AND SCP 2026-0006. LOCATION ZERO SUGARLOAF PARKWAY. STAFF IS REQUESTING THIS TO BE TABLED TO OUR SEPTEMBER 9TH WORK SESSION. SEPTEMBER 28TH REGULAR JUST WORK SESSION. WE HAVE TO ADVERTISE FOR THE REGULAR MEETING. WELL, WE'RE ONLY GOING TO TABLE IT TO THE WORK SESSION AS WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST, BECAUSE OTHERWISE THEN WE HAVE TO HAVE IT ON THE REGULAR. CORRECT? THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN. WE STILL HAVE TO ADVERTISE. OKAY, OKAY. NEXT ITEM IS ITEM [Discussion of General City Business] NUMBER FIVE, SUP2026-00010. SUP2026-00011SUP2026-0012 AND 272. HURRICANE SHOALS, LLC, 272 HURRICANE SHOALS ROAD. AND AGAIN, THIS WILL ALSO BE TABLED TO THE SAME TIME FRAME. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. IS THERE ANYTHING FROM THE COUNCIL? OKAY. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE AGENDA AS AMENDED. SO MOVED. OKAY. HAVE A FIRST. COUNCILMEMBER HARRIS, DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. SECOND. OKAY. I THINK COUNCILMEMBER JOHNSON GOT THE SECOND. RANDY TRAVIS WAS FIRST. OH, TRAVIS. I'M SORRY. SO COUNCIL MEMBER TRAVIS WAS FIRST. COUNCILMEMBER JOHNSON WAS SECOND. I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? I'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. AND THE AMENDED AGENDA HAS BEEN APPROVED. WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA AS THE PRACTICE OF THE COUNCIL FOR THE MAYOR TO ASK THE COUNCIL MEMBERS IF THERE ARE ANY OF THE AGENDA ITEMS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO PLACE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR THE REGULAR MEETING THIS AUGUST 24TH, FOR THE MEETING ON AUGUST 24TH, AND THEN BE VOTED ON WITH ONE VOTE. I'LL START WITH COUNCIL MEMBER BRYANT HARRIS. I'M FINE WITH AGENDA ITEM NUMBER EIGHT BEING PLACED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. OKAY, COUNCIL MEMBER JONES, DO YOU. I'M FINE WITH EIGHT. I'M GOOD WITH THAT. OKAY. ME TOO. OKAY, SO WE'LL PUT CONSENT. ITEM EIGHT WILL BE ON CONSENT. SO NEXT WE'LL MOVE ON TO DISCUSSION OF GENERAL CITY BUSINESS. THERE IS NO PUBLIC COMMENT DURING THIS SECTION OF THE AGENDA UNLESS FORMALLY REQUESTED BY THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL. ITEM ONE AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE CITY OF LAWRENCE ORDINANCE 2020, ADOPTED MAY 2020, AS AMENDED, WHICH WILL RESULT IN CHANGES TO ARTICLE ONE DISTRICTS RELATED TO SECTION 102.7 RM8 TOWN HOUSE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT, SUBSECTION B LOT DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS MINIMUM LOT AREA. THIS ITEM IS BEING PRESENTED BY OUR DIRECTOR OF PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT, TODD HARGRAVE. YES, SIR. I MISSED THE MEMO. THERE'S A WHOLE PAGE FULL OF INSTRUCTIONS HERE ON THE SCREEN. YES, SIR. AS YOU MENTIONED, THIS IS AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE ZONING ORDINANCE. LET ME GET THE WIDTH IN THERE. RIGHT. WHICH YOU MENTIONED. THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME CHANGES TO THIS THAT STAFF IS RECOMMENDED. [00:05:04] ONE OF THE KEY CHANGES TO THIS AMENDMENT WILL BE THE ADOPTION OF OF CHANGES TO THE PROJECT DIMENSIONAL STANDARDS. IF YOU GUYS CAN SEE THIS RIGHT HERE. WE'LL GO TO FOUR ACRES INSTEAD OF WHAT WAS BEFORE CALLED A LOT DIMENSIONAL STANDARD, WHICH WAS A MUCH SMALLER. THAT'S WHAT IT WAS UNDER. AGAIN, THERE'LL BE EIGHT UNITS PER ACRE AND THERE WILL BE A 15% THRESHOLD ON THESE AS WELL. THERE'S ALSO SOME REQUIREMENTS WHERE WE MADE SOME MODIFICATIONS DOWN TO WHEN IT COMES TO THE PROJECT AREA AND VARIANCES AND TEXT AMENDMENTS, AND THEY WILL NOT BE ALLOWED TO CHANGE THIS THROUGH A VARIANCE, AS IT SAYS HERE IN THE CONDITIONS HERE UNDER NUMBER ONE, UNDER NUMBER TWO, YOU HAVE AN RM12 GENERAL RESIDENCE DISTRICT. THIS IS THE EXISTING RM12 PROPERTIES THROUGHOUT THE CITY. AND HERE YOU WILL HAVE TO IF THEY IT'S THE SAME RULE AS BEFORE WHERE YOU. YOU. THEY WILL COME TO YOU FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS IN THIS CASE. AND THEN AGAIN, COUNCIL APPROVAL IS REQUIRED HERE. EXCUSE ME, I SAID VARIANCE SAID SPECIAL USE VARIANCE PROCESS AT THE BOTTOM UNDER NUMBER THREE, WHICH IS WHERE YOU WILL HAVE TO DO THESE. FOLLOW THESE RULES TO COME IN FOR ANY RM12 ZONE PROPERTY. WE DO HAVE SOME THAT ARE MUCH SMALLER THAN ONE ACRE THROUGHOUT THE CITY. SO YOU'RE AWARE OF THIS RULE. AND THEN OF COURSE WE'VE CHANGED THE FORMAT TO LOOK OUT. WE STRUCK OUT THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL INCLUDED A MINIMUM LOT AREA OF 1800FT■S. THIS WILL JUST BE THE MORE TRADITIONAL TYPE OF ZONING CATEGORIES WHERE YOU DEVELOP IT MUCH LIKE AN APARTMENT COMPLEX. INSTEAD OF LOTS, IT'LL BE JUST BUILDINGS AND LIMITED TO EIGHT UNITS PER ACRE. AND THEN AGAIN, THE THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS REGARDING THE BUILDING HEIGHT AND MINIMUM MAXIMUM LOT COVERAGE. EXCUSE ME, AND IMPERVIOUS SURFACE. THIS IS ALREADY COVERED UNDER OUR DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS AS THE MS4 PERMIT AND THE DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS. THOSE WILL BE REVIEWED SOME CAPACITY BY OUR DEPARTMENT AS WELL AS THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT. BIGGEST CHANGE. AND THEN I'VE GOT ANOTHER ONE HERE WHERE WE HAVE THE MINIMUM DWELLING UNIT WIDTH FOR REAR ENTRY WILL BE 20FT. FRONT ENTRY, DOUBLE CAR GARAGE WILL BE 24FT. THEN WE'LL GET SOME ARCHITECTURAL REGS AT A LATER DATE. SOME PICTURES AND STUFF IN A BOOK AT SOME TIME LATER. AND ADDITIONALLY WE AMENDED HERE UNDER THE RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS REWORDED IT. BASICALLY YOU CAN SEE IN RED WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY THERE AND THIS IS WHAT WILL BE THEIR DEVELOPMENT. AMENITIES MUST INCLUDE PASSIVE RECREATION SPACES LIKE COMMON PARKS, COMMONS OR PARKS. THESE AREAS SHOULD HAVE FEATURES SUCH AS BENCHES, TABLES AND GRILLS TO ENCOURAGE THEIR USE. HERE'S SOME ARCHITECTURAL REGS WHICH DID NOT CHANGE. SOME PICTURES OF A REAR ENTRY UNIT. I KNOW IT SHOWS THE FRONT, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO SEE UP FRONT INSTEAD OF A GARAGE DOOR. THIS WOULD BE AN EXAMPLE OF A FRONT ENTRY UNIT, BUT I HAVE SOME IDEAS FOR YOU LATER. MUCH FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD. AND HERE IS THE RULE WE WILL. THIS IS THE INSTALLATION OF EV READY INFRASTRUCTURE IN EACH UNIT. THE PART OF THE ORDINANCE THAT WILL BE. THIS WILL BE AMENDED EVEN FURTHER TO EXCLUDE ONE FAMILY AND TWO FAMILY AND LIMIT IT TO JUST TEN. ALL TOWNHOUSE FAMILY DWELLINGS SHALL BE CONSTRUCTED WITH THE LANGUAGE YOU SEE THERE, AND THEN WE WILL STRIKE. THERE WAS SOME QUESTION ABOUT DESIGNATED PARKING AREAS OUTSIDE, WHICH IS IN THE THIRD OR FOURTH SENTENCE DOWN. THIS IS INTENDED TO BE A GENERAL RULE APPLYING TO APARTMENTS, COMPLEXES EVERYTHING ACROSS THE BOARD, BUT THAT RULE WILL COME OUT AS WELL, JUST SO YOU KNOW WHERE IT'S COMING FROM. GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND. AND THAT IS IT FOR THE EXHIBIT. YOU CAN SEE WHERE SOME NUMBERS CHANGED OF COURSE. BUT STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THIS. WE DO HAVE A FOLLOW UP AFTER THIS WITH REZONING CASE AS WELL. I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. WHO ON THE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO BE RECOGNIZED BY THE MAYOR TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS? I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION. SURE. IS THE IDEA HERE THE LARGER IDEA HERE, TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE WHO WANT TO COME IN AND DEVELOP TOWNHOMES IN THE CITY, NOT INSIDE THE CITY, YOU KNOW, THE DOWNTOWN AREA, BUT THE LARGER PART OF THE CITY, THAT IT SAVES THEM TIME, THAT IT'S GOING TO BE A QUICKER PROCESS THAN IT WOULD HAVE BEEN. IT WILL BE. IT'LL STILL BE A PUBLIC HEARING, BUT IT WILL LIMIT THE PROPERTIES. WE HAVE GIS DATA THAT TELLS US WHERE ALL THESE PARCELS ARE. THEY CAN COME IN. THEY CAN ALSO PART OF THIS THAT COULD SLOW IT DOWN AS PARCEL ASSEMBLAGES. SOMEBODY COULD ASSEMBLE PARCELS TOGETHER TO GET FOUR ACRES. THAT DOESN'T TAKE MUCH TIME. BUT THE DEVELOPMENT WORLD, ANYTHING LONGER THAN A WEEK IS TOO LONG. BUT YEAH, IT'S GOING TO BE CLEARER, A LITTLE CLEARER FOR THE PEOPLE TO READ BECAUSE PEOPLE COME IN AND THEY ASK THE FIRST QUESTION IS, I HAVE TO HAVE A FIVE ACRE LOT, AND SOME OF THEM GET A LITTLE RIDICULOUS WITH IT, WITH THE SETBACKS AND STUFF. SO WE THINK THIS IS A BETTER, CLEANER WAY OF INTRODUCING IT TO YOU ALL. SO IT'LL SAVE THEM SOME TIME, IDEALLY. RIGHT? YES, SIR. COUPLE WEEKS, COUPLE MONTHS. SAY A COUPLE MONTHS. OKAY. THAT'S GOOD. GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS. IT'S USUALLY A YEAR [00:10:03] LONG PROCESS FOR A DEVELOPMENT. REGARDLESS OF WHAT IT IS, YOU HAVE TO GET FUNDING AND GO THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PHASE. THERE'S LOTS OF BOXES TO CHECK AS LONG AS THEY HAVE A CLEAR IDEA WHAT THE RULES ARE. YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY CAN DO BUSINESS HERE IN THE CITY. YES, SIR. AND ARE ENCOURAGED TO DO THAT. AND YOU SAID THAT YOU'RE GOING TO COME BACK WITH ANOTHER ORDINANCE OR ANOTHER TEXT AMENDMENT ON APARTMENTS. NO, SIR. NOT AT THIS TIME. THAT'S WHERE THE WAY THE RULE WAS WRITTEN. IT'S WRITTEN IN A GENERAL SENSE TO COVER SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES. SO ALL ONE FAMILY, TWO FAMILY AND TOWNHOUSE ARE ALL TECHNICALLY WHAT YOU WOULD CALL SINGLE FAMILY, EITHER DETACHED OR ATTACHED. SO THAT'S HOW THE RULE IS WRITTEN. BUT TO CLEAR THINGS UP FOR SOMEBODY SPECIFIC TO TOWNHOUSES, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THE OTHER TWO, ONE AND TWO FAMILY OUT. AND THE LANGUAGE REGARDING THOSE, LIKE WE DISCUSSED, THE EV CHARGERS OUTSIDE. AND IF WE DO APPROVE THIS, DOES THAT MEAN THAT, WELL, ALL THE APPLICANTS WILL STILL HAVE TO COME BEFORE US FOR. YES, SIR. WE'RE NOT SAVING THEM ANY TIME AS FAR AS COMING BEFORE US OR SAVING US ANY TIME IN REVIEWING THEIR PROJECTS. THEY'RE STILL GOING TO COME BEFORE US NO MATTER WHAT. EVEN WITH THIS. YES, SIR. THIS WAS A RULE THAT WAS ADOPTED AS WE ADOPTED THE, EXCUSE ME, REWROTE THE 2020 ZONING ORDINANCE. SO EVERYTHING HAS TO COME TO THE COUNCIL FOR OUR STAFF. UNLESS SOMEBODY HAS HAPPENS TO HAVE AN RCA OR WHAT IT'S CURRENTLY IS. BUT NOBODY NOBODY DOES. THEY'RE ALL NEW ZONING CATEGORIES. I'M CURIOUS, HAVE YOU HAD ANY PUSHBACK AT ALL FROM ANY DEVELOPERS ABOUT THE EV PROPOSAL? NO, SIR, I PROBABLY WILL WHEN WE GET INTO THE BUILDING PHASE OF THINGS. BUT SINCE IT'S IN THE BOOK, THEY'LL HAVE TO FOLLOW IT. I MEAN, AS I SAID BEFORE, MY MY OPINION ON THIS OR MY MY CONCERN IS THAT IT'S WE SHOULD TREAT IT JUST LIKE WE DO ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE, TO ADD TO THE AMENITIES OF THE PROJECT. IF THEY'RE GOING TO ASK US TO CHANGE THE RULES FOR THEM, THEN WE SHOULD SAY, OKAY, SET UP SOME THINGS SO THAT FUTURE RESIDENTS WILL BE ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS. MAYBE THE CURRENT ONES WON'T. BUT JUST LIKE A WALKING TRAIL OR A A LARGER CLUBHOUSE, AT LEAST IT'S THERE FOR THE FUTURE RESIDENTS SHOULD THEY WANT TO USE THOSE. THE THE ORDINANCE, THIS AMENDMENT AS IT'S WRITTEN, THESE ARE. THE CONDITIONS OF ZONING APPROVAL SHOULD BE VERY SIMPLE. WHEN WE GET. MOVE FORWARD, IT SHOULD JUST BE YOUR ZONING IT TO THIS RULE. AND THEN THERE'S NO VARIANCES UNLESS YOU DECIDE TO HEAR A VARIANCE REQUEST AND MAYBE AMEND IT, THEN THAT'S A DIFFERENT SET OF CONDITIONS ALTOGETHER. BUT THIS IS YOUR SET OF CONDITIONS AS IT'S WRITTEN. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ANSWERS. YOU'RE WELCOME. ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO BE RECOGNIZED TO ASK QUESTIONS? OKAY. I DO HAVE A QUESTION. THANK YOU, MR. HARGRAVE, FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. JUST JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR. THE MAXIMUM UNITS PER ACRE IS EIGHT. YES, MA'AM. AND THE MINIMUM AMOUNT IS. WHAT IS THE MINIMUM? WELL, THE MINIMUM IF YOU IF IF WE DO IT, YOU CAN ONLY BUILD IN UNITS OF THREE ATTACHED AND EIGHT. SO IF IT'S A FOUR ACRES IS A BAD EXAMPLE. BUT FOR HERE, FOR SAKE OF ARGUMENT YOU WOULD SAY 32 UNITS ON FOUR ACRES. THAT'S JUST A RAW NUMBER WITH THE EIGHT. YES, MA'AM. THEN THE OTHER WOULD BE THREE TIMES FOUR IS 12. SO MAYBE 12 UNITS ON A FOUR ACRE TRACT OF LAND. OKAY. IF THEY CHOOSE TO. BUT THEY COULD GET EIGHT. OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE, BECAUSE I THINK WHEN YOU WENT OVER YOUR PRESENTATION, I THINK I WAS WAITING FOR YOU TO SAY THE MINIMUM, AND I DIDN'T HEAR IT. YES, MA'AM. IT'S NOT REALLY A MINIMUM. IT'S GOING TO BE BASED ON THE SIZE. THEY'LL HAVE TO ADD THE ROADS, THE PONDS, THE ETCETERA. SO THE NUMBER IS GOING TO COME DOWN FROM EIGHT. I TYPICALLY TELL EVERYBODY, PROBABLY A THIRD OF THAT WILL BE DEVOTED TO STREETS, PONDS, ETC. OKAY. OKAY. AND THE OTHER QUESTION IS THE THE FRONT ENTRY AND THE REAR ENTRY. THAT YOU HAVE IN THE SCHEMATICS IN THE TABLE? YES, MA'AM. IS THERE A WAY WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THAT FRONT ENTRY IS NOT AUTOMATIC? YES. YES, MA'AM. WE CAN WE CAN REQUIRE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR IT. OKAY, OKAY. I KNOW IT'S DOWN IN THE WORDING, BUT IF SOMEONE JUST LOOKS AT THE TABLE, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S AUTOMATICALLY PART OF THE. YES, MA'AM. IT'S ORDINANCE. THE RULE IS THEY'RE COMING TO YOU, RIGHT? AND THEY'RE GOING TO ASK YOU FOR FRONT OR REAR. AND IF YOU THE REASON WE DIDN'T FOCUS ON IT LIKE WE DID LAST TIME WERE, IN MY OPINION, IS, IS WE'VE APPROVED THEM WITH FRONT AND REAR UNITS IN ALL OF THE TOWNHOUSE DEVELOPMENTS IN THE CITY. I CAN'T THINK OF ONE EXCEPTION. THERE MIGHT BE ONE OUT THERE SOMEWHERE. SO TO ME, IF THEY'RE COMING TO YOU. BUT IF YOU WANT TO APPLY A SPECIAL USE PERMIT. YES, MA'AM. WE CAN DO THAT. OKAY. I JUST COUNCIL MEMBER JONES, WHAT WE CAN DO IS WE CAN ADD A FOOTNOTE UNDER THAT AND BASICALLY SAY FRONT ENTRY GARAGES REQUIRE SPECIAL USE PERMIT PER SECTION 4.8. OKAY. THAT WOULD REFER THEM TO WHERE IT SAYS WE'RE REQUIRING A SPECIAL USE. THANK YOU. I JUST [00:15:06] THINK IT'LL BE MORE TRANSPARENT WHEN SOMEONE LOOKS AT THIS. AND WITHOUT THEM JUST AUTOMATICALLY ASSUMING THAT THEY CAN WRITE IT AND PRESENT. THEY'LL HAVE TO DO THIS IN ADVANCE OF SUBMITTING. IF THEY DO NOT, THEY'LL HAVE TO TABLE IT AND RE-ADVERTISE. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER ANYBODY ELSE? WELL, I DO HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS. SO BECAUSE WE'VE GONE THROUGH A COUPLE ITERATIONS OF THIS PUBLISHED AND NOT PUBLISHED, THE ONE. SO IN THIS ONE, YOU DO NOT SAY YOU'VE TAKEN OUT THE LANGUAGE. THAT REAR ENTRY WAS WHAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR. THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT REQUIREMENT. YES YES. YES, SIR. YOU TOOK THAT OUT OF THIS. I TOOK THAT OUT BECAUSE WE THE THE COUNCIL OVER THE LAST EIGHT YEARS HAS NOT APPROVED THE TOWNHOUSE DEVELOPMENT. THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE BOTH. SO BUT WE TYPICALLY WE ONLY ALLOWED FRONT ENTRY IF IT HAD A HARDSHIP TOPOGRAPHY. IT TYPICALLY THE CASE THAT I REMEMBER VERY FEW THAT I KNOW OF THAT REALLY HAD A HARDSHIP. BESIDES THE ONE ON PAPER MILL ROAD THAT SITS THERE ABANDONED TO THIS DAY. WHAT ABOUT WHEN I DROPPED THE ONE THAT'S VACANT OR THE ONE THAT'S PARTIALLY BUILT? BOTH, BECAUSE WE HAVE SOME FRONT ENTRY THAT WAS MASS GRADED AND LEVELED TO TO BUILD. SO WE HAVE A SUP IN HERE. SO IT'S IN THERE F POINT EIGHT. OKAY. SO IT'S STILL AN SUP CORRECT. ALL RIGHT. IT HASN'T BEEN TAKEN OUT. NOTHING HAS BEEN CHANGED. OKAY. IF YOU'LL LOOK AT PAGE. F POINT EIGHT, WHATEVER THAT PAGE THAT IS. IT USED TO BE AT THE BEGINNING. THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR. IT'S UP ON THE SCREEN RIGHT NOW. FRONT ENTRY UNIT SHALL REQUIRE THE APPROVAL OF ASSOCIATED SUP. THAT'S SO THAT'S NOT JUST MAKING SURE THAT'S NOT OUT. THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD WAS RELATED TO. COUNCIL MEMBER TRAVIS. HIS QUESTIONS IN LOOKING AT THE WHERE YOU'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, IT'S WHAT WE'RE REQUIRING A TWO CAR GARAGE, CORRECT? YES, SIR. THAT'S THE REQUIREMENT. YES, SIR. SO WHY WOULDN'T WE JUST SAY WE'LL BE LOCATED WITHIN THE GARAGE AS OPPOSED TO ADDING, AS WAS DISCUSSED, DESIGNATED PARKING AREA. THIS IS THE OPINION OF MYSELF AND THE BUILDING OFFICIAL. THIS IS THE CLEANEST LANGUAGE WE CAN COME UP WITH FROM A GENERAL SENSE. HOWEVER YOU WANT IT AMENDED. I WOULD ADVISE AGAINST IT, BUT THIS IS YOUR DECISION. SO WHY IS THAT? WHY IS THIS THE THE THE CHOICES I'M GETTING ARE REQUIRED. WHAT THE WHAT HAVE BEEN RECOMMENDED OR WIRES HANGING OUT OF A WALL? THIS IS ACTUAL PHYSICALLY CONSTRUCTED TO WHERE YOU BASICALLY ARE GOING TO TAKE IT OFF, CONNECT IT TO A PLATE, AND YOU'RE DONE. THE OTHERS ARE DOING GARAGE DOOR OPENERS. BASICALLY THE OTHER CONDITIONS. THIS IS BUILDING CODE. THIS IS ACTUALLY FROM THE CODE VERBATIM EXCEPT FOR THE FIRST PART OF THE SENTENCE. I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT DESIGNATED PARKING AREA THAT'S OUT. LIKE WHAT I WAS SAYING EARLIER IN THE GENERAL ARE GOING TO TAKE THAT OUT. YES, SIR. THAT'S WHAT I SAID. OKAY. I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT. YES, SIR. THAT'S WHAT I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND, WAS THAT YOU WERE TRULY GOING TO TAKE THAT OUT. I WAS INTENDING TO IF UNLESS YOU ALL CHANGED, SAY NO. IT MAKES SENSE JUST TO MAKE IT CLEAN. YES, SIR. WHICH IS WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO. JUST TO CLARIFY, WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT, MR. MAYOR. ONE OTHER QUESTION. ARE YOU FINISHED? YEAH. GO AHEAD. JUST TO MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR ON THE EVE. MAKE SURE THAT I'M CLEAR THAT YOU'RE CLEAR ON WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. WE JUST WANT AN OUTLET, YOU KNOW, WITH THE LITTLE PLATE THAT'S READY TO GO IN CASE SOMEONE WANTS TO PLUG IN AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGER. THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHAT THIS IS. THAT'S WHAT THAT SAYS IN THE GARAGE. IN THE GARAGE. YEAH. YES, SIR. THAT'S FROM THE IN THE NATIONAL ELECTRIC. ANY STATE, NO WIRES HANGING OUT OR ANYTHING. WE WANT THE ACTUAL OUTLET JUST LIKE YOU'D HAVE A 110 OUTLET. I THINK SOME EXCHANGE THAT WE HAD THROUGH CORRESPONDENCE WAS MERELY WHAT I THINK YOU HAD SAID. IT MAY HAVE BEEN YOURSELF, I'M NOT SURE, BUT I BELIEVE IT WAS. THAT'S JUST A DRYER CORD, RIGHT? IS WHAT WE WERE HOOKING. WHAT WHAT IF WE HAD ADOPTED THAT RULE? THAT IS STRICTLY A DRYER CORD. THEY DON'T GO VERY FAR. SO THIS IS POWER READY. YOU'RE READY TO GO. THEY CAN HOOK THEIR BOX UP TO IT. YEAH. AND IT'S UNIQUELY SET UP FOR AN EV CHARGER. OKAY. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU. MAYOR. ANY OTHER. SURE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. SO WHAT'S THE PLEASURE OF THE COUNCIL? REGULAR AGENDA. OKAY. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION ON THAT. SO IT'LL BE REGULAR AGENDA. AUGUST 24TH. NEXT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM 2RZM2026-00004JCT. CONSTRUCTION GROUP CARE OF LJA ENGINEERING. [00:20:01] 737 GRAYSON HIGHWAY. AND THIS IS ALSO BEING PRESENTED BY OUR DIRECTOR OF PLANNING DEVELOPMENT, TODD HARGRAVE. YES, SIR. AS YOU MENTIONED, THIS IS A REZONING REQUEST FOR FROM BG ZONING TO RM8 TOWNHOUSE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT. AS THEY INDICATED, THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 737 GRAYSON HIGHWAY. THE APPLICANT IS JCT CONSTRUCTION GROUP L CARE OF LJ ENGINEERING, WHO IS PRESENT THIS EVENING. SO WE'LL HEAR ANY COMMENTS YOU HAPPEN TO HAVE RELATED TO THIS PROJECT. THE SITE IS 4.3 ACRES, WHICH IS PART OF THE REASON. IF ADOPTED TONIGHT, THE PREVIOUS RULE WOULD ALLOW THIS DEVELOPMENT. AS MENTIONED, BG RM8 TO ALLOW FOR 25 REAR ENTRY TOWNHOMES WITH APPROVAL WITH CONDITION. AS WE GO THROUGH THIS, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, THE SITE IS LOCATED ALONG GRAYSON HIGHWAY ALONG THE WEST SIDE OF GRAYSON HIGHWAY. TO THE SOUTHEAST OF THIS INTERSECTION WAS SIMONTON ROAD IN BETWEEN FARMERS COURT AND CRANE DRIVE. THE SURROUNDING AREA INCLUDES. OF COURSE, I THINK WE'RE A MIX OF COMMERCIAL, LIGHT, INDUSTRIAL AND SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USES. THE RESIDENTIAL USES ARE THE GRAYED OUT AREA PREDOMINANTLY, WHICH IS UNINCORPORATED, WHICH IS UNINCORPORATED GWINNETT COUNTY TO THE SOUTH AND WEST. THIS IS THE AREA ZONING MAP AS IT'S LOCATED. IT'S BEEN ZONED. IT WAS ANNEXED AND REZONED TO BG IN APPROXIMATELY, I'M NOT SURE OF THE YEAR, BUT BETWEEN THE YEARS OF 1986 AND 2002, THIS REQUEST TO REZONE FROM BG TO RM8 IS GOING TO RESULT IN A DENSITY OF 6.25 ACRES OR UNITS PER ACRE, AND THE TOWNHOMES DO SERVE AS A TRANSITIONAL USE FROM THE AREA SURROUNDING IT. AND THAT'S WHY STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THIS REQUEST. AND WE PRESENTED IT TO YOU THAT WAY. THE SITE PLAN HERE, THIS IS THE ORIGINAL SITE PLAN. I HAVE OTHER COPIES FOR YOU TO LOOK AT LATER. THIS IS FROM THE ORIGINAL PRESENTATION. BUT OF COURSE THIS HAS FIVE ROWS OF TOWNHOUSES. TWO ROWS FACE GRAYSON HIGHWAY WITH THREE FACING INTERNALLY TO A GREEN SPACE. THERE WILL BE ENHANCED GREEN SPACE, AND I'LL SHOW YOU THAT ON A REVISED PLAN. MOMENTARILY. PEDESTRIAN CIRCULATION AND REAR LOADING DESIGN PROVIDED COMPATIBILITY WITH RESIDENTIAL USES. THESE WILL HAVE AN APPEARANCE OF ALL REAR REAR LOADED, REGARDLESS OF WHERE THEY FACE INTO THE SUBDIVISION, AND REQUIRE SOME TEXT AMENDMENTS. ONE IS THE TEXT AMENDMENT, ALLOWING THE MINIMUM PROJECT AREA TO BE REDUCED FROM 5 TO 4 ACRES, A VARIANCE REDUCING THE REQUIRED EXTERNAL FRONT SETBACK ALONG THE MAJOR PRINCIPAL ARTERIAL FROM 40FT TO 32FT, A VARIANCE INCREASING THE MAXIMUM LOT COVERAGE FROM 40% TO 48% ON VARIANCE. INCREASING ALLOWABLE PERCENTAGE OF THREE BEDROOM UNITS FROM 40% TO 100% AND A VARIANCE, REDUCING THE REQUIRED REAR SETBACK FROM A PRIVATE DRIVE FROM 27FT TO 22FT AGAIN, IS CONSISTENT WITH OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. IT'S IT'S APPROPRIATE RESIDENTIAL USE WITH AN EVOLVING COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR. IT PROVIDES A SMOOTH TRANSITION BETWEEN DIFFERING LAND USE INTENSITIES, AND IT HELPS REINVEST THE CORRIDOR WHILE ADDING HOUSING DIVERSITY. AND AGAIN, HERE'S THE PROPOSAL. AS I MENTIONED, 25 REAR ENTRY STAFF IS I WILL SPARE YOU THE REST OF THIS, BUT STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST AS WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE PREVIOUS AMENDMENT. AND THEN I HAVE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. BUT THIS IS THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL YOU'LL SEE HERE, AND I'M GOING TO EXIT OUT OF THIS FOR A MOMENT, IF YOU DON'T MIND. WHERE MY BOOKMARKS ON HERE. I BELIEVE THIS IS IT HERE. THIS IS THE NEW PROPOSAL HERE. HOPEFULLY IT POPS UP THE WAY YOU WANT IT TO. CAN EVERYBODY SEE THAT CLEARLY? YOU'LL SEE THE DRIVEWAY COMING IN OFF OF GRAYSON HIGHWAY. THESE WILL ALL BE INTERNAL, PRIVATE. I CALL THEM PRIVATE UTILITIES, BUT SOME PEOPLE CALL THEM PRIVATE STREETS. AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE PLAN, THEY WILL ALL BE REAR LOADED WITH THE UNITS INTERNAL TO THE SUBDIVISION FACING A NEIGHBORHOOD GREEN, WHICH I BELIEVE IS IS GOING TO BE USED AS FOR STORMWATER PURPOSES UNDER UNDERGROUND, UNDERGROUND, UNDERGROUND. SO THEY'LL FACE A GREEN SPACE. SOME ADDITIONAL PARKING WILL BE PLACED ON THE SIDE AS WELL, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH PART WITH WHAT WE REFER TO AS GUEST PARKING. AND THEN THERE'LL PROBABLY BE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT SOME STREAM BUFFERS AND STUFF AT A LATER DATE. BUT WE'VE GOT THOSE, AS YOU CAN SEE, IN THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF THE PROPERTY, THERE ARE SOME OTHER SITES I CAN SHOW YOU AS WELL, BUT WHATEVER YOU WANT TO SEE. BUT THE CONDITIONS OF ZONING, AGAIN, THIS WAS A COMMENT WE RECEIVED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER JONES. DO WE HAVE ANY PHOTOGRAPHS? THESE ARE THE PHOTOGRAPHS OF A ONE OF THE DEVELOPMENTS YOU CAN SEE THERE, CONSISTENT WITH THE ELEVATIONS THAT WERE PRESENTED TO YOU IN THE PACKET. I DON'T KNOW WHERE THIS SITE IS, AND I BELIEVE THAT MISS JONES WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHERE THE SITE IS, SO I'LL FIND OUT. THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM. YOU CAN SEE YOU HAVE FRONT ENTRIES WITH THE PORCHES ON TWO LEVELS A FRONT PORCH, THREE STORIES. IT'S A GOOD LOOKING PRODUCT WITH THE REAR, THE REAR LOAD OF THE GARAGES IN THE BACK. HERE. I MAY HAVE BEEN MISTAKEN, [00:25:03] MISS JONES. I SAID SOMETHING ABOUT A CANTILEVER, BUT THAT LOOKS LIKE IT'S JUST A COVERING OVER THE GARAGE DOOR, SO FORGIVE ME. LOTS OF LIGHT. SO YOU CAN SEE THEY'LL HAVE A LOT OF NATURAL LIGHT IN THE UNITS THEMSELVES. THESE ARE THE CONDITIONS OF ZONING AS WE ORIGINALLY DISCUSSED. I'LL SKIP PAST THESE. THESE ARE FROM JULY 7TH. AND THIS IS THE MOST RECENT SET OF CONDITIONS WHICH WE'VE DISCUSSED INTERNALLY WITH. YOU CAN SEE HERE, I BELIEVE YOU ALL HAVE THESE AS WELL. THESE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED, I THINK, AT LENGTH ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS. AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE YOU HAVE PRESENTED ON THE AUGUST THE 24TH, THERE SHALL BE THREE STORIES. YOU CAN SEE ALL THE CHANGES TO THAT WE'VE BEEN THROUGH. ALL DWELLINGS SHALL BE CONSTRUCTED WITH THE EV READY INFRASTRUCTURE WHICH IS ALREADY IN HERE. THIS IS MORE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT I THINK MR. TRAVIS WAS REQUESTING, AS WELL AS SIDEWALKS ALONG GRAYSON HIGHWAY, WHICH WE'VE DISCUSSED WITH THE APPLICANT, AS WELL AS THE NEIGHBORHOOD GREEN. AND WHERE MY POINT IN ALL THIS IS STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THIS AND HOPE YOU WOULD DO THE SAME. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. BEFORE I TURN IT OVER FOR QUESTIONS, IF I APPRECIATE THE APPLICANT WORKING WITH STAFF AND COUNCIL TO LITERALLY REDUCE THE NUMBER OF UNITS SO THAT THERE COULD BE A LARGER GREEN SPACE IN THE MIRROR FOR GATHERING AREA AND BUILDING COMMUNITY AND PUTTING DETENTION UNDERGROUND, WHICH IS MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE THAN HAVING A DETENTION POND OR RETENTION POND, AND THEN DOING THE PART OF THE SIDEWALK TO THE BP GAS STATION SO THAT WE CAN AT LEAST GET THAT FAR FOR WALKABILITY. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO QUESTIONS WHO WOULD LIKE TO BE RECOGNIZED BY THE MAYOR TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY, SO THERE'S NO SIDEWALK THERE RIGHT NOW. CORRECT. ACROSS THE FRONT. THERE'LL BE THERE'S, THERE'S WHAT WE'RE ASKING THE APPLICANT TO DO IS EXTEND IT TO THE DRIVEWAY AT THE BP. I THINK THERE'S A SMALL SEGMENT, RIGHT? IN FUTURE, WE'LL LOOK AT SIDEWALKS IN THE AREA AT A LATER DATE, RIGHT. EXPANDING THAT. BUT THE PUBLIC GETS A CHANCE TO USE THE SIDEWALK NOW THAT THERE WASN'T REALLY ONE THERE BEFORE, AT LEAST NOT THAT WIDE, RIGHT? CORRECT. PROBABLY THREE, THREE FEET. TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, IF I, AS THE MAYOR CALLS IT, A GOAT TRAIL, I THINK. RIGHT. WELL, YEAH. YEAH. WHEN YOU JUST HAVE GRASS, THAT'S CERTAINLY WHAT IT IS. RIGHT. MY ONLY OTHER QUESTION, I KNOW WE'RE NOT THE SCHOOL BOARD, BUT I JUST WONDERING, SINCE THIS IS 100%, YOU KNOW, THREE BEDROOM APARTMENTS OR CONDOS, I'M ASSUMING THAT MEANS FAMILIES AS OPPOSED TO, YOU KNOW, DOUBLE INCOME. NO KIDS KIND OF PEOPLE. HAS THERE BEEN ANY ANALYSIS ON HOW THIS IS GOING TO IMPACT THE SCHOOL? I'M ASSUMING THIS IS THE GRAYSON HIGH SCHOOL CLUSTER, IS THAT CORRECT? I'LL FIND OUT FOR SURE. AS FAR AS PLANNING GOES WITH THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, THERE ARE FIVE YEARS AHEAD OF THE CITY. I CAN LOOK UP THOSE NUMBERS AND FIND OUT. THEY PROBABLY HAVE A STUDY OUT SOMEWHERE IN THE SCHOOL BOARD WEBSITE, BUT I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT RIGHT NOW. BUT I CAN FIND OUT. OKAY, BE NICE TO KNOW BEFORE THE APPLICANT. THAT'D BE GREAT. THANK YOU. BUT ONE OBSERVATION WE'VE HAD RECENTLY IS THAT MANY OF THE THREE BEDROOM OR TWO BEDROOM AND ONE OFFICE, SO MANY PEOPLE WORKING. SO WE'VE WE'VE AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT WE'VE NOTICED THROUGH OBSERVATION RIGHT OUTSIDE THE WINDOW. I THINK WHEN YOU ENTER THROUGH THE GARAGE, THERE'S A AN AREA TO THE LEFT OR THE RIGHT. OKAY. ANY OTHER ANYONE ELSE WANT TO BE RECOGNIZED? OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. I ASSUME COUNCIL WANTS THIS ON THE REGULAR AGENDA FOR THE 24TH. YES. REGULAR AGENDA. OKAY. ITEM THREE WAS TABLED. SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM 4SUP2026-00007. COREY EICKHOFF 407 NORTH CLAYTON STREET. AND THIS ITEM IS BEING PRESENTED BY OUR PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, AGAIN, TODD HARGRAVE. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. AS YOU MENTIONED, THIS IS A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW A DISTILLERY AT AN EXISTING FACILITY THAT CURRENTLY HAS A LIQUOR OF A A, I FORGET WHAT THEY CALL THE PERMIT. SO FORGIVE ME, BUT TO BREW BEER, WHICH IS SLOW POUR, WHICH IS DOWN IN THE DEPOT DISTRICT. AS THE MAYOR SAID, THIS IS LOCATED AT 407 NORTH CLAYTON STREET. THE PROPERTY IS RATHER SMALL, BUT IT'S 0.85 ACRES. THE ZONING. THERE IS LIGHT MANUFACTURING, WHICH IS TYPE OF USE WOULD BE PERMITTED IN. AND THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS A DISTILLERY AND WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST. AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE IN THE VICINITY MAP THE AREA HIGHLIGHTED IN BLUE, THIS DISTILLERY FUNCTION AND TASTING ROOM INSIDE THE CURRENT BUILDING WITH NO CHANGES TO THE EXTERIOR. I THINK THEY'VE ALREADY GOT THAT NAILED DOWN. ALL OPERATIONS STAY INDOORS WITH INTERNAL ADJUSTMENTS MADE TO MEET REQUIREMENTS, SEPARATING AND BREWING AND DISTILLING ACTIVITIES. THERE WON'T BE MUCH FROM A BUILDING CODE STANDPOINT TO SEPARATE THE TWO, BECAUSE A LOT OF IT HAS TO DEPEND ON THE LIMITED VOLUME THAT THEY CAN PRODUCE, OR GALLONS OR BOTTLES OR OUR THE WORD IT, THE BOUNDARY. THIS IS A BOUNDARY AND TOPOGRAPHICAL MAP. THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN ZONED SINCE 1960, WITH THE [00:30:05] BREWERY BEING APPROVED IN 2016 PURSUANT TO SU16 DASH TEN. THE REQUEST TO ALLOW DISTILLERY WITHIN THE EXISTING BREWERY FACILITY AND THIS IS NO EXTERNAL MODIFICATIONS. AS I PREVIOUSLY STATED, THE DEPOT DISTRICT, WHICH IS A MIX OF COMMERCIAL, RETAIL, ENTERTAINMENT, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL THERE ARE NEARBY USES WHICH ARE RETAIL EVENTS FACILITY WHICH WE'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE TRACKS, PARKING LOT, WELDING FACILITY, AUTO. THERE ARE AUTO PARTS STORES AND A VACANT BREWERY AND DISTILLERY TO THE SOUTH AT THE OLD DOME ON BOURNE STREET, AND THE PROPOSAL FITS WITH THE CHARACTER OF THE AREA. AS YOU SAY, WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, A DISTILLERY AND BREWERY ARE NOT SPECIFICALLY WORDED IN HERE, BUT WE ENCOURAGE ALL TYPES OF RETAILS DISTRICTS AND USES. SO. BUT IT IS CONSISTENT WITH HISTORICAL, CULTURAL AND ECONOMIC. HUB DISTILLERY DOES NOT A PRIMARY USE BUT LIMITED SCOPE OFFSETS IMPACTS. AND THE CONCLUSION IS DISTILLERY PROPOSAL EXPANDS BREWERIES. BREWERY SUPPORTS LOCAL BUSINESS PRESERVES HISTORIC STRUCTURES WHICH THE BUILDING IS. ALIGNS WITH CITY OBJECTIVES, AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE DEPOT DISTRICT REDEVELOPMENT. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST AS WELL. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. WHO WOULD LIKE TO BE RECOGNIZED BY THE MAYOR TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. THANK YOU. I WALK BY THE BREWERY ALMOST EVERY DAY. AND YOU KNOW, THE SIGNS BEEN OUT THOUGH THE REZONING SIGN OR THE SIGN THAT YOU PUT UP THERE. I GUESS THIS IS A REZONING SPECIAL SPECIAL USE PERMIT. IT'S A Z ON IT. ANYBODY SHOW UP AT THE PLANNING MEETING TO TALK ABOUT THIS? ANY CITIZENS? NO, SIR. JUST THE APPLICANT WAS PRESENT. I WAS A RATHER QUICK MEETING. OKAY. I DO HAVE SOME SET OF PROPOSED CONDITIONS HERE FOR YOU AS WELL. I'LL MAKE SURE THESE ARE DISTRIBUTED OUT. BUT PART OF THE CONDITIONS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED WERE TO MAINTAIN THE HOURS OF OPERATION TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE SLOPE OR HOURS. THIS IS WHAT'S ADVERTISED ON THEIR WEBSITE. AND ADDITIONALLY, THEY WERE STRIKING THE SUNSET CLAUSE, WHICH IS CONDITION G ON THE BOTTOM. THE EXISTING BREWERY HAS BEEN THERE. I HAVEN'T HAD ANY HISTORY AND I DON'T EXPECT THIS TO HAPPEN WITH THIS FACILITY EITHER. HOWEVER, THAT WAS WHAT THEIR RECOMMENDATION. YES, I SAW THAT IN THE MINUTES. YES SIR. SO SO AGAIN, THERE'S BEEN NO PROBLEMS WITH THE DISTILLERY IN ITS EARLIER LOCATION. NO. NO SIR, NOT AT ALL. IT'S IT'S EVEN WITH THE SLOPE OR WE DON'T HAVE MUCH PROBLEM. WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY PROBLEMS WITH ANY OF THE FACILITIES WE'VE HAD WHEN THEY WERE OPERATING. I DON'T THINK WE EVER. THEY WERE RATHER QUIET, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, BECAUSE THE HOURS ARE LIMITED. SO WOULD THEY BE ON OPPOSITE SIDES OF THE THAT. I'M NOT SURE IT'LL BE INTERNALLY. I'M SURE IT'LL BE JUST WHERE THEY'RE SERVING. I DON'T THINK THEY'RE GOING TO SEPARATE WHERE YOU YOU RECEIVE. IT'LL JUST BE WHERE THEY'RE MAKING THE PRODUCT. AND IT'S LIKE IN THE BACK OF THE FACILITY, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, AND IT MAY BE AS SIMPLE AS TAPE ON THE FLOOR, LIKE LES NESSMAN, IF YOU WILL, FROM K P. SO WE'LL SEE. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS? OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. SO PLEASURE OF THE COUNCIL IS REGULAR 24TH. THAT'S A QUESTION. YES. REGULAR AGENDA. OKAY. BRYANT WAS HE WAS REPRESENTING US. OKAY. I COULDN'T HEAR HIM. I'M SORRY. YES. REGULAR. REGULAR. OKAY. WE'RE GOOD. ALL RIGHT. SO ITEM FIVE WAS TABLED. WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM SIX, ORDINANCE TO AMEND CHAPTER TEN OF THE CODE OF CITY OF LAWRENCEVILLE, GEORGIA TO ADOPT REQUIREMENTS THAT CAR WASHES RECYCLE WATER. AND THIS IS BEING PRESENTED BY CITY ENGINEER MR. ALVES JUNIOR AND EVENING MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS. SO IN 2025, THE CITY UNDERWENT A GEORGIA ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION DIVISION AUDIT OF THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PROGRAM FOR COMPLIANCE WITH THE METROPOLITAN NORTH GEORGIA WATER PLANT DISTRICT WATER RESOURCE MANAGEMENT PLAN. THE PLAN CONTAINS REQUIREMENTS THAT EACH LOCAL GOVERNMENT WITHIN THE DISTRICT MUST MEET IN ORDER TO HELP PROTECT WATER QUALITY AND PUBLIC WATER SUPPLIES. THE AUDIT DOCUMENTS WERE SUBMITTED TO GEORGIA ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION DIVISION, AND STAFF RECEIVED SEVERAL COMMENTS. ONE OF THE COMMENTS REQUIRED THE ADOPTION OF THE MODEL ORDINANCE TO REQUIRE NEW CAR WASHES TO RECYCLE WATER. CITY STAFF REVIEW OR ORDINANCE DETERMINED THAT THE CITY HAD NOT MET THESE REQUIREMENTS, SO THIS ACTION WILL ADDRESS THIS REQUIREMENT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. IT'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MEET UP WITH THE STATE. SO HAVING SAID THAT, WHO WOULD LIKE TO BE RECOGNIZED BY THE MAYOR TO ASK [00:35:02] JUNIOR ANY QUESTIONS? MISTER, MAY I HAVE A QUESTION? OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. ALVES, FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. JUST A QUESTION OUT OF THE AUDIT, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT WILL BE COMING BEFORE US? NO, I'M AWARE OF THIS. OKAY. THIS IS THE ONLY THING THAT THEY FOUND THAT WE NEEDED TO BRING UP TO DATE. THE OTHER THE ITEMS I STAFF IS WORK ON THAT ALREADY, BUT IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH COMING TO COUNCIL FOR POLICY. OKAY, EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. WELCOME. ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO BE RECOGNIZED? YES, YES. THIS SEEMS LIKE A JUST LIKE A PAPERWORK ISSUE. I MEAN, I CAN'T IMAGINE CAR WASHES TODAY, NOT RECYCLING. DO WE HAVE SEVERAL WHO WHO DON'T KNOW THAT I'M AWARE OF IT. SO YES, THAT'S BASICALLY A PAPERWORK AND MAKE SURE THAT WE STAND FOR IT AS PART OF THE THE METROPOLITAN WATER DIFFUSION. SO IT'S JUST PUT US AS LAWRENCEVILLE AHEAD OF THE GAME TOO. AND WITH OTHER MUNICIPALITIES NOW, IT SAID IT WON'T APPLY TO OUR COMMERCIAL CAR WASHES PERMITTED OR CONSTRUCTED BEFORE 2011. DO WE? ARE THOSE THE ONES THAT AREN'T RECYCLING? PROBABLY. WELL, THEY ARE THE ONES. AFTER POTENTIALLY ALL THE NEW CONSTRUCTION BUILT AFTER 20 2011. SO CAR WASHES ALREADY COMPLY WITH THIS REQUIREMENT. OKAY. AFTER. YEAH. AFTER 2011. YES. BUT DO YOU THINK WE HAVE SOME IN THE CITY THAT ARE NOT RECYCLING BEFORE 2011 AGAIN? SO THIS IS ALL JUST DOTTING SOME I'S AND CROSSING SOME T'S. YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY, OKAY. ANYONE ELSE? NO. SO WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF THE COUNCIL ON THIS ONE? REGULAR AGENDA? IT COULD BE CONSENT OR CONSENT. CONSENT OR CONSENT? I'M FINE WITH CONSENT. YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. CONSENT. SO THIS WILL BE CONSENT ITEM NUMBER ONE. WOULD THIS BE TWO. CONSENT ITEM ONE. THERE'S ONE ON THE NEXT AGENDA. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND YOU'VE GOT TO ITEMS. OKAY. SO THEN WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM. WELL THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. SORRY. THEN WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM SEVEN. PROPOSED CREATION OF THE CITY CITIZEN ENRICHMENT ACADEMY. AND THIS ITEM IS BEING PRESENTED BY OUR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, MICHAEL FISHER OF OPERATIONS. AND AND POSSIBLY AND OUR CHIEF FINANCIAL OUR CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER, KEITH LEE, IS. I SEE THAT HE IS WALKING UP AS WELL. THERE'S A LITTLE IMPACT KIND OF TO, TO BOTH OF OUR AREAS. SO I JUST WANTED TO TALK TO YOU FOR JUST A FEW MINUTES ABOUT A NEW COMMITTEE, A NEW PROGRAM THAT WE'RE, THAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO TALK WITH YOU ALL TONIGHT, GIVE YOU JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND TO START WITH, IF YOU ALL ARE ALL FAMILIAR WITH THE LAWRENCEVILLE EMPLOYEE ENRICHMENT NETWORK. SO THAT WAS A PROGRAM WE INSTITUTED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO FOR EMPLOYEES. INTERNALLY, IT'S UP TO 25 EMPLOYEES IN EACH GROUP. THERE'S SIX SESSIONS. PLUS, THE SEVENTH SECTION IS THE GRADUATION. THE EMPLOYEES GET TOGETHER AND GO AROUND AND HAVE PRESENTATIONS PROVIDED IN DEPTH PRESENTATIONS ABOUT DIFFERENT OPERATIONAL ASPECTS OF ALL THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS IN THE CITY. WHAT THAT DOES IS GETS THE EMPLOYEES ENGAGED, GIVES THEM PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT, HELPS THEM TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE DO OUTSIDE OF OUR DAY TO DAY TASKS, AND HOW THAT CAN MAKE US MORE EFFICIENT AND HELP US BETTER PROVIDE THE SERVICES REALLY TO THE CITIZENS THAT ULTIMATELY THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE TO DO. BUT THAT'S ONLY FOR EMPLOYEES. WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING LIKE THAT FROM THE COMMUNITY SIDE. WHAT WE DO HAVE ON THE COMMUNITY SIDE IS THE LAWRENCEVILLE FINANCIAL REVIEW CITIZENS COMMITTEE, AND I'M GOING TO ASK MR. LEE, JUST TO KIND OF BRIEF YOU ON THAT, BECAUSE ULTIMATELY, WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS TAKE A HYBRID OF THOSE TWO AND AND WE'LL FOLLOW UP WITH WHAT WE WANT TO TRY TO DO WITH THE CITIZEN ENRICHMENT ACADEMY. SO, KEITH. THANK YOU, SIR. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THE FINANCIAL REVIEW CITIZENS COMMITTEE WAS CREATED TO GIVE CITIZENS A CLOSER LOOK AT THE CITY BUDGET, HOW WE DEVELOP IT, HOW WE MANAGE IT. THE COMMITTEE IS MADE UP OF COMMUNITY VOLUNTEERS WHO RECEIVE INFORMATION ON REVENUES, EXPENDITURES, CAPITAL PROJECTS, DEBT, LONG TERM PLANNING AND OTHER FINANCIAL MATTERS. MEMBERS CAN ASK QUESTIONS AND PROVIDE FEEDBACK DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS, BUT THEY DO NOT APPROVE THE BUDGET OR EXERCISE FORMAL CONTROL OVER BUDGET OR FINANCIAL OVERSIGHT. THEIR ROLE IS ADVISORY AND EDUCATIONAL, WITH FINAL BUDGET AUTHORITY RESTING WITH MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THE COMMITTEE HAS SERVED AND CONTINUES TO SERVE AN IMPORTANT ROLE BY INCREASING TRANSPARENCY AND HELPING CITIZENS BETTER UNDERSTAND OUR BUDGET PROCESS. THE LIMITATION IS THAT IT LOOKS [00:40:04] AT THE CITY BUDGET AND IT LOOKS PRIMARILY THROUGH THAT LENS. THE BUDGET CAN TELL YOU WHERE THE MONEY GOES, BUT IT CAN'T. BUT IT DOESN'T ALWAYS EXPLAIN THE FULL STORY OF THE SERVICES, THE OPERATIONS, THE INFRASTRUCTURE, THE POLICY DECISIONS BEHIND THOSE NUMBERS. IN SIMPLE TERMS, THE FINANCIAL REVIEW COMMITTEE HELPS CITIZENS UNDERSTAND WHAT THE CITY DOES AND HOW IT PAYS FOR IT. IT HAS SERVED US WELL. IT GAVE CITIZENS A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF OUR FINANCES. IT GAVE US ANOTHER AVENUE FOR TRANSPARENCY AND PUBLIC PARTICIPATION. WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS NOT WALKING AWAY FROM THAT PURPOSE. WE'RE EXPANDING IT, IF YOU WILL. THE CITY'S BUDGET DOESN'T EXIST BY ITSELF. IT REFLECTS THE DECISIONS ABOUT POLICE, UTILITIES, INFRASTRUCTURE DEVELOPMENT, NEIGHBORHOODS, CAPITAL PROJECTS AND SERVICES OUR EMPLOYEES DELIVER EVERY DAY. IF WE'RE GOING TO HELP CITIZENS UNDERSTAND THE BUDGET, WE THINK THERE'S A VALUE IN FIRST, HELPING THEM UNDERSTAND WHAT'S BEHIND THE BUDGET. THE CITIZEN ENRICHMENT CAT ACADEMY DOES THAT. RESIDENTS WOULD SEE OPERATIONS FIRST HAND, MEET THE PEOPLE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEM, UNDERSTAND HOW DECISIONS ARE MADE, WORK THROUGH THE SAME KINDS OF TRADE OFFS WE FACE AS EMPLOYEES AND STILL SPEND AN ENTIRE SESSION LEARNING MUNICIPAL FINANCE THROUGH THE HANDS ON BUDGET EXERCISE. BUT THE PROGRAM GOES ONE STEP FURTHER. WE DON'T JUST WANT PEOPLE WHO UNDERSTAND THEIR CITY. WE WANT PEOPLE WHO WHO KNOW HOW TO PARTICIPATE IN IT. GRADUATES BECOME POTENTIAL VOLUNTEERS. BOARD AND COMMISSION MEMBERS, NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS, AND INFORMED VOICES FOR THE COMMUNITY. SO THIS REALLY ISN'T A CHOICE BETWEEN FINANCIAL TRANSPARENCY AND CITIZENS ACADEMY. WE'RE TALKING WE'RE TAKING THE TRANSPARENCY AND THE EDUCATION THAT WORK FOR THE FINANCIAL REVIEW CITIZENS COMMITTEE AND GIVING IT REALLY A BIGGER JOB. THE COMMITTEE TAUGHT CITIZENS ABOUT THE CITY'S BUDGET. THE ACADEMY CAN TEACH THEM ABOUT THEIR CITY. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ASKING YOU TO CONSIDER TONIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IS THAT THE WHOLE PRESENTATION? YES, SIR. WE'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE REGARDING IT. OKAY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DIDN'T HAVE TWO PART. SO. OKAY, SO Y'ALL HEARD THE PRESENTATION. WHO WOULD LIKE TO BE RECOGNIZED BY THE MAYOR TO ASK QUESTIONS? I WOULD I WOULD LIKE TO ASK A QUESTION. THANK YOU BOTH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. THIS SOUNDS LIKE A VERY ENRICHING PROGRAM FOR OUR CITIZENS. IT TAKES THEM ANOTHER STEP FURTHER FROM THE FINANCIAL REVIEW COMMITTEE. SO WITH THAT, THE FINANCIAL REVIEW COMMITTEE HAD LIMITED NUMBER OF PEOPLE AND ALSO A SMALL WINDOW OF TIME. CAN YOU TALK ABOUT WHAT IT WILL LOOK LIKE WITH THIS PROPOSED CITIZEN GROUP? THE WINDOW OF TIME WILL STILL BE ABOUT THE SAME THING. WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO KEEP IT TO THE REGULAR FIVE SESSIONS, AS THE COMMITTEE HAD ALREADY DONE, JUST TO TRY TO BE RESPECTFUL OF THEIR TIME. WE CAN TAKE UP TO 25 IN 1 GROUP, SO THAT WOULD BE ABOUT AS BIG AS WE WOULD WANT TO GET AND TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE. IT WON'T BE AS IN DEPTH AS WE DO WITH THE LEAN PROGRAM AND GETTING REAL DEEP INTO THE OPERATIONS. SO THERE WILL BE MORE THAN ONE DEPARTMENT IN EACH ONE OF THE SESSIONS. HOWEVER, DURING THE FINANCE ONE, WE DO WANT TO MAKE THAT ONE. IT'LL BE A FOCUS ALL OF ITS OWN, BECAUSE WE STILL THINK THERE'S A LOT OF VALUE IN A LOT OF QUESTIONS FROM THE CITIZENS, FROM THE FINANCIAL SIDE, BUT IT'LL BE ABOUT 25 PEOPLE IN ABOUT FIVE SESSIONS. OKAY. AND THE IN COMPARISON TO THE FINANCIAL REVIEW WAS HOW MANY SESSIONS? FOUR SESSIONS? FOUR. OKAY. SO WE'RE EXTENDING IT ONE. SO BASICALLY FIVE WEEKS. YES. OKAY. OKAY. AND TO, TO ADD TO THAT, MY UNDERSTANDING IS YOU'RE HOPING THAT MAYBE WE CAN DO THIS TWICE A YEAR INSTEAD OF ONCE A YEAR WITH FINANCE, WE THINK IT'LL TURN OUT WELL. SO YEAH, SO WE CAN GET MORE PEOPLE ENGAGED IN UNDERSTANDING LAWRENCEVILLE. OKAY. ABSOLUTELY. ANYONE ELSE? YES. JUST GO AHEAD. REALLY, JUST A COMMENT. I THINK THIS IS A GREAT IDEA. I DID PARTICIPATE AND GO THROUGH THE GWINNETT 101 AND THAT THIS SOUNDS VERY MUCH LIKE THAT. AND I FELT I GOT A LOT OUT OF IT. BUT I THINK THIS IS REALLY A GREAT IDEA. SO I APPLAUD YOU FOR CREATING IT. AND AS A PROUD GRADUATE OF THE CITIZENS COMMITTEE, YEAH, I'D LOVE TO SEE MORE PEOPLE BE ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT. A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO THE CURRENT MEMBERS? ARE ALL THEIR TERMS COMING UP? ARE THEY ENDING NOW? YES THEY ARE. OKAY. SO THERE THERE'S NO GOING TO BE ANY CARRYOVER FROM THE ONES WHO ARE ON THERE AT THE MOMENT. OR WE COULD, IF SOME OF THEM WANTED TO LEARN MORE, WE COULD PROBABLY INCLUDE THEM IN THIS. YES, IN THIS NEW ONE. WILL IT ALSO INCLUDE A [00:45:05] PERSONALIZED TOUR FROM THE CITY MANAGER AROUND TOWN? BECAUSE THAT WAS A REALLY BIG HIGHLIGHT FOR ME. WE WILL SEE IF WE CAN ENCOURAGE HIM TO DO THAT. YES, WE DO THINK THAT IS A HIGHLIGHT, I THINK. WELL, I THINK IT IS A I MEAN, YOU CAN SIT AND WATCH POWERPOINT PRESENTATIONS NO MATTER HOW GREAT THEY'RE THEY'RE OFFERED. YOU WANT TO SEE AND MAYBE EVEN TOUCH SOME OF THE THINGS THAT GREAT THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING HERE IN THE CITY OR KIND OF MAYBE TAP INTO SOME OF THE DREAMS THAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY. AND THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL FOR THEM TO HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT OUTSIDE THE THE FOUR WALLS OF THIS BUILDING, THE TIMING WORKS REALLY WELL FOR US IN OUR LEAN PROGRAM, COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PORTION GOES LIKE RIGHT TOWARDS THE VERY END, AND THEN WE END UP WITH THE TWO OR AFTER THAT. AND A LOT OF THE STUFF THAT BARRY AND HIS GROUP SHARE, A COUPLE OF WEEKS LATER, THEY GET TO GO OUT AND SEE. AND IT REALLY, IT REALLY DOES MAKE AN EMPHASIS. SO WE'LL TRY TO WORK IN SOME TYPE OF A TOUR, MAYBE NOT AS EXTENSIVE, BECAUSE WE'VE GOT ABOUT FOUR HOURS FOR THE LEAN. WE'LL BE DOING ABOUT THREE HOURS FOR THIS GROUP. SO A LITTLE BIT SHORTER DAYTIME OR CLASS EACH TIME. BUT I THINK WE CAN WORK SOMETHING IN THERE. ALL RIGHT. LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING HOW IT ALL TURNS OUT. THANK YOU. THE ONLY THING I WOULD ADD IS THAT MAYBE THE CITY MANAGER, INSTEAD OF DRESSING UP AS BUTTON GWINNETT, COULD DRESS UP AS THE FOUNDER OF THE CITY OF LAWRENCEVILLE'S NAME, LAWRENCE. YES. SOUNDS LIKE A MAYOR AND COUNCIL ISSUE TO ME. Y'ALL HAVE WORKED OUT. OUT THE HAT WOULD BE JUST AS SILLY, I THINK. WELL, THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION. I THINK IT'LL BE A GREAT ADDITION FOR OUR FOR OUR CITIZENS TO KNOW MORE ABOUT LAWRENCEVILLE AND TO REALLY DIG INTO IT. I KNOW I'VE GOTTEN SEVERAL POSITIVE COMMENTS, QUITE FRANKLY, OVER THE FINANCE REVIEW COMMITTEE AND LEARNING MORE ABOUT THE BUDGET, AND I HAVE ALSO GOTTEN A LOT OF POSITIVE COMMENTS ABOUT OUR CITY MANAGER AND HIS TOUR. YES. SO. SO WE'LL GET TO WORK ON IT THEN. OKAY. SO WHAT'S THE PLEASURE OF THE COUNCIL? CONSENT. CONSENT. CONSENT. ALL RIGHT. YES. YOU SURE YOU WANT IT TO BE CONSENT? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO THIS WILL BE CONSENT NUMBER TWO. ITEM EIGHT WILL BE CONSENT. NUMBER THREE. WE'LL [Executive Session - Personnel, Litigation, Real Estate] MOVE ON TO EXECUTIVE SESSION. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR PERSONNEL LITIGATION AND REAL ESTATE MATTERS. SO MOVED. OKAY. FIRST BY COUNCIL MEMBER TRAVIS DO I HAVE A SECOND SECOND SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. AND THE MOTION CARRIES 5 TO 0. WE'LL MOVE DOWN TO THE THIRD FLOOR CONFER 15 SECONDS, I GUESS. WE ARE NOW OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION AND COMPLETING OUR WORK SESSION AGENDA. SO WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY, PLEASE GIVE US A REPORT ON THE EXECUTIVE SESSION. MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. DURING THE EXECUTIVE SESSION, THE COUNCIL DISCUSSED FOUR ITEMS RELATED TO PENDING OR POTENTIAL LITIGATION AND DISCUSSED TWO ITEMS RELATED TO REAL ESTATE AND THERE WERE NO VOTES TAKEN. THANK YOU. SO DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? OH, SORRY. ITEM SEVEN. OKAY. ITEM SEVEN WE HAVE PUT CONSENT NUMBER THREE. AND THAT IS ACTUALLY JUST TURNS OUT TO BE A PRESENTATION. STAFF IS NOT READY TO PRESENT ANYTHING AT THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING. SO WE CAN'T HAVE IT IN CONSENT. SO THAT WILL JUST BE A DISCUSSION. AND THEN WE'LL HAVE TO MOVE IT TO A REGULAR. IT WAS JUST A PRESENTATION TONIGHT. I'LL BRING IT FORWARD AT OKAY. RIGHT. SO THEY'LL BRING IT FORWARD AT A LATER DATE. AND WE'LL GO THROUGH THE DOG AND PONY SHOW AGAIN. SO ALL RIGHT, NOW DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? SO MOVED A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER JONES. DO I HAVE A SECOND SECOND, SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.